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	<title>Comments on: KVM in the tree</title>
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		<title>By: jieryn</title>
		<link>http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2008/07/08/kvm-in-the-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>jieryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sajinet overlay does not &#039;provide a kernel&#039;; but then again, I&#039;m not sure what you mean when you say that providing a kernel would be required. I do track the KVM mailing list, which is exactly why I don&#039;t want to rely on what is in the kernel.

LOTS of people use sajinet&#039;s overlay. I can&#039;t believe that I am the first person to complain about this drastic change in behavior. I challenge you to find another Linux kernel-type package that doesn&#039;t actually provide a module. Please see all audio and video drivers for examples of setting expected behavior:  i.e. creating a kmod that can be loaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sajinet overlay does not &#8216;provide a kernel&#8217;; but then again, I&#8217;m not sure what you mean when you say that providing a kernel would be required. I do track the KVM mailing list, which is exactly why I don&#8217;t want to rely on what is in the kernel.</p>
<p>LOTS of people use sajinet&#8217;s overlay. I can&#8217;t believe that I am the first person to complain about this drastic change in behavior. I challenge you to find another Linux kernel-type package that doesn&#8217;t actually provide a module. Please see all audio and video drivers for examples of setting expected behavior:  i.e. creating a kmod that can be loaded.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2008/07/08/kvm-in-the-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the userspace portions of kvm.  That&#039;s it.

We have no intention of providing a kernel (which is what would be required; the kvm-intel.ko and kvm-amd.ko do not change much.  All the changes are in virtio and things like that).  Feel free to track the kvm kernel git tree if you need bleeding edge stuff.  Things like that do *not* belong in portage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the userspace portions of kvm.  That&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>We have no intention of providing a kernel (which is what would be required; the kvm-intel.ko and kvm-amd.ko do not change much.  All the changes are in virtio and things like that).  Feel free to track the kvm kernel git tree if you need bleeding edge stuff.  Things like that do *not* belong in portage.</p>
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		<title>By: jieryn</title>
		<link>http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2008/07/08/kvm-in-the-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-1140</link>
		<dc:creator>jieryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to know why the ebuild no longer provides the kvm-{amd,intel} modules. I&#039;m having a very difficult time understanding what the point of this package is if the modules aren&#039;t built.

I don&#039;t want to run the in-kernel KVM. KVM is one of the fastest dev&#039;d subprojects I&#039;ve ever seen in Linux. Waiting around for *LITERALLY* 40, 50, or 60+ patches to hit upstream is crazy.

Please explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to know why the ebuild no longer provides the kvm-{amd,intel} modules. I&#8217;m having a very difficult time understanding what the point of this package is if the modules aren&#8217;t built.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to run the in-kernel KVM. KVM is one of the fastest dev&#8217;d subprojects I&#8217;ve ever seen in Linux. Waiting around for *LITERALLY* 40, 50, or 60+ patches to hit upstream is crazy.</p>
<p>Please explain.</p>
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		<title>By: laen</title>
		<link>http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2008/07/08/kvm-in-the-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>laen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Switched from the sajinet overlay to the portage unstable, and it works flaaaawlessly perfectly well! Awesome job, thanks! No need for VMWare server anymore, need for more Intel_VT capable machines as my servers now though :P

Using the in-kernel module built-in, and thats working very fine as well.

No idea about libvirt yet, so i&#039;m very curious. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switched from the sajinet overlay to the portage unstable, and it works flaaaawlessly perfectly well! Awesome job, thanks! No need for VMWare server anymore, need for more Intel_VT capable machines as my servers now though <img src='http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Using the in-kernel module built-in, and thats working very fine as well.</p>
<p>No idea about libvirt yet, so i&#8217;m very curious. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: mlangc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlangc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, guess someone should close bug 157987 then... did you take a look at the ebuilds from Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon? They can be found at  http://www.sajinet.com.pe/gentoo/portage/app-emulation/kvm/ and are working well for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, guess someone should close bug 157987 then&#8230; did you take a look at the ebuilds from Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon? They can be found at  <a href="http://www.sajinet.com.pe/gentoo/portage/app-emulation/kvm/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sajinet.com.pe/gentoo/portage/app-emulation/kvm/</a> and are working well for me.</p>
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		<title>By: w3lly</title>
		<link>http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2008/07/08/kvm-in-the-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>w3lly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good to know, thanks for info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good to know, thanks for info.</p>
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		<title>By: Merlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really great news.
I can&#039;t wait to play around with libvirt with all the frontends. KVM seems to be a good choice since I want to replace vmware in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really great news.<br />
I can&#8217;t wait to play around with libvirt with all the frontends. KVM seems to be a good choice since I want to replace vmware in the near future.</p>
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