Comments on: Nokia doesn’t get it http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/ Tue, 10 May 2011 20:43:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Daniel http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1309 Daniel Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:08:53 +0000 http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/#comment-1309 That's possible; I'm not speculating at this point as to why they did it, that's sort of besides my point. They did it, and that's what's important to me. That’s possible; I’m not speculating at this point as to why they did it, that’s sort of besides my point. They did it, and that’s what’s important to me.

]]> By: nico http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1308 nico Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:54:15 +0000 http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/#comment-1308 Would this have anything to do with them being against ogg in html5? Maybe refusing to incorporate ogg support is more of a political decision. Would this have anything to do with them being against ogg in html5? Maybe refusing to incorporate ogg support is more of a political decision.

]]> By: Daniel http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1307 Daniel Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:27:52 +0000 http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/#comment-1307 I know about adding ogg support. I have both a 770 and a n810 (but won't be getting a n900; Even without this issue, $650 is *way* to much for me). That's besides the point. Nokia deliberately removed ogg support. I can add it back, but what does the fact that they removed it, and that there's no way for me to get it into the default firmware (or get anything else in, for that matter) say about Nokia, and their commitment to the community? The community wants ogg support, but it's not there. I've been fairly closely following Maemo for 4+ years now, and actively involved off and on, and I'm disillusioned now. It would take some serious changes (like, say mailing lists, proper VCS access, and actual indications that they will accept patches and changes from the community) for me to come back into the Maemo/N900 fold. It's too bad, too. Aside from the price, the N900 is a very nice set of kit. I know about adding ogg support. I have both a 770 and a n810 (but won’t be getting a n900; Even without this issue, $650 is *way* to much for me). That’s besides the point.
Nokia deliberately removed ogg support. I can add it back, but what does the fact that they removed it, and that there’s no way for me to get it into the default firmware (or get anything else in, for that matter) say about Nokia, and their commitment to the community? The community wants ogg support, but it’s not there.
I’ve been fairly closely following Maemo for 4+ years now, and actively involved off and on, and I’m disillusioned now. It would take some serious changes (like, say mailing lists, proper VCS access, and actual indications that they will accept patches and changes from the community) for me to come back into the Maemo/N900 fold.
It’s too bad, too. Aside from the price, the N900 is a very nice set of kit.

]]> By: BrunoSchmidt http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1306 BrunoSchmidt Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:34:56 +0000 http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/#comment-1306 As far as I can tell they have an pretty organized community around maemo an it is easy to download the gstreamer plugin to ogg from it. The only catch is that the plugin runs on the arm and not on the DSP, because the code for the DSP was licensed by Nokia and is closed, this is why they do not provide it as official. See: http://wiki.maemo.org/Playing_OGG_files As far as I can tell they have an pretty organized community around maemo an it is easy to download the gstreamer plugin to ogg from it.
The only catch is that the plugin runs on the arm and not on the DSP, because the code for the DSP was licensed by Nokia and is closed, this is why they do not provide it as official.

See:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Playing_OGG_files

]]> By: Daniel http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1305 Daniel Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:36:46 +0000 http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/#comment-1305 As far as I'm concerned, there are 2 key things that are necessary for true open source: 1) I can get and modify the source; 2) I can get my modifications back upstream. There appears to be no way to get modifications into the N900, without getting them into the upstream projects, and even then, Nokia might rip them out. Just giving me the source isn't really open source in my book. As far as I’m concerned, there are 2 key things that are necessary for true open source: 1) I can get and modify the source; 2) I can get my modifications back upstream. There appears to be no way to get modifications into the N900, without getting them into the upstream projects, and even then, Nokia might rip them out.

Just giving me the source isn’t really open source in my book.

]]> By: Smartha http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1304 Smartha Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:23:54 +0000 http://gryniewicz.com/blogs/dang/2009/09/03/nokia-doesnt-get-it/#comment-1304 The last time I checked, open source wasn't "must accept any patches submitted by the community" The last time I checked, open source wasn’t “must accept any patches submitted by the community”

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